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That might be true of WoC, but its daemons that are the real power of chaos in WFB. WoC and Skaven are just by-products of chaos... daemons are the real thing. If you want to know just how powerful then read the Defense of Itza in the lizardmen book: Kroak splits opens the land, floods rivers and generally lays waste to everything anywhere near him, killing tens of thousands of daemons.... and yet still they come. Currently its only the HE's portal sucking magic/chaos from the world that stops the daemons from invading on mass and killing everything...

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I disagree that they are the biggest threat. Time and time again they attack united under the Everchosen, yet they are cast back again and again. I would saw that they are actually very similar. In both they are the one that are thought to be the greatest threat to the established Order. That being the Imperium, or Empire.

As for who is the biggest threat in Fantasy it would be Skaven. It is in the lore of Fantasy that if they were to unite then the world would not be able to stop them. Just like 40k Orks.
I think the whole united they over run the world applies to a lot of races. Orks, Ogres, beasmen, chaos worshipers, and of course skaven.
Especially if all of the VC unite and elect a single leader the empire and all life is screwed 5 ways to Sunday.

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I do believe it is kind of odd when we talk of the chaos uniting. Chaos =/= order, right?

But semantics aside, the crucial point of divergence I see between 40k CSM and WoC in fantasy is that the Warriors of Chaos were never "good" to begin with like the traitor legions, there was no heresy, they betrayed noone, nor were they tricked into betrayal. They kill and pillage because it is in their twisted sense of morality to do so. And it is for that reason that I enjoy their fluff so much more.

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