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After this month is finished I will probably take a few weeks break at least.

And then come back for a month or two more.

But really, normally I hate MMOs. I have played Warhammer Online and WoW. Warhammer Online I have played for maybe a week, and WoW for two days. And that is an hour or two per day, so at least this game did it correctly when it kept me for there even this long.
Well then you havent really played much MMO games, just similar type of MMO games, all themeparks. Try EVE online if you want "real" scifi MMO experience, there isnt much better, but its not singleplayer game, like mostly these are. Needs good Guild for that game to open up. But i can too admit that EVE isnt for everyone, some which want instant rewards should look elsewhere. Besides theres many Free to play MMO game options now available you should try steer clear of only these big budget games, so you can widen your gaming experience. Seems marketing and hype affects so many gamers of their choices, people only talk about games which have high budget.
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Well then you havent really played much MMO games, just similar type of MMO games, all themeparks. Try EVE online if you want "real" scifi MMO experience, there isnt much better, but its not singleplayer game, like mostly these are. Needs good Guild for that game to open up. But i can too admit that EVE isnt for everyone, some which want instant rewards should look elsewhere. Besides theres many Free to play MMO game options now available you should try steer clear of only these big budget games, so you can widen your gaming experience. Seems marketing and hype affects so many gamers of their choices, people only talk about games which have high budget.
Try EVE online if you want a boring Crafting MMO experience.

edit: Star Wars is NOT SCIENCE FICTION. it is SCIENCE FANTASY. there is a difference, and Generally, I have only found that some aspects of Steampunk and Star wars fit into that category.

but Ill just say this, EVE is as slow as cold Heinz Ketchup in a glass bottle.

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Well then you havent really played much MMO games, just similar type of MMO games, all themeparks. Try EVE online if you want "real" scifi MMO experience, there isnt much better, but its not singleplayer game, like mostly these are. Needs good Guild for that game to open up. But i can too admit that EVE isnt for everyone, some which want instant rewards should look elsewhere. Besides theres many Free to play MMO game options now available you should try steer clear of only these big budget games, so you can widen your gaming experience. Seems marketing and hype affects so many gamers of their choices, people only talk about games which have high budget.
EVE looks like something which would bore me to a slow and tormenting death.

Really, games in general have begun to bore me. I only give a shit about games that are placed in settings I like, so its pretty much Star Wars (Forgot to pick up TFU II by the looks of it...) and Warhammer.

I dont give all that much of a shit for any game on the calender apart from "Dark Millenium", which surprise, is a 40k game.

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Try EVE online if you want a boring Crafting MMO experience.

edit: Star Wars is NOT SCIENCE FICTION. it is SCIENCE FANTASY. there is a difference, and Generally, I have only found that some aspects of Steampunk and Star wars fit into that category.

but Ill just say this, EVE is as slow as cold Heinz Ketchup in a glass bottle.
Suprisingly it has generally older MMO audience aswell and not instant gratification ADD generation kids. But yes, sometimes it feels kinda slow, but anything in game affects everythings and its very Guild oriented game and solo mostly anti-social players could look elsewhere. My biggest gripe of EVE is space combat which sometimes is kind of lackluster. Eve might be slow but overall gameplay rocks compared to... But you like themepark games more and sometimes i need little this kind of game too, but few weeks and im already bored. So if that thing is only thing about saying of Eve i dunno what to say, one of few games where crafting actually matters and you can be whatever you want or just specialise.

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My biggest gripe of EVE is space combat which sometimes is kind of lackluster.
pulled this out of your wall of text, because, from what ive seen, the game consists of, basically, Farming materials and crafting, and Space combat.

So a big part of the game you dislike, which is the part that most people would want from a game, the combat, and yet your recomending it to others to try.

hell, Eve would be even abit more fun if I couldnt just tell the game to auto cast everything and sit there to win a game. its practically got an Auto Pilot system built in.

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pulled this out of your wall of text, because, from what ive seen, the game consists of, basically, Farming materials and crafting, and Space combat.

So a big part of the game you dislike, which is the part that most people would want from a game, the combat, and yet your recomending it to others to try.

hell, Eve would be even abit more fun if I couldnt just tell the game to auto cast everything and sit there to win a game. its practically got an Auto Pilot system built in.
Seems you dont know nothing about game at all, you told its boring and here you say "what youve seen". This is playerdriven game, where there are many people who are just traders and crafters and they are very happy to do just that and not hit mobs. Dont try even to say something you maybe tried just few days, this game is complitely playerdriven with economics, diplomacy and crafting playing a big role. And PvP wars can last months, some even longer. Then its about how much material you are willing to put online to waste.

There is autopilots yes, when you travel long routes from one line to another, but on dangerous areas better do some things manually. For what i said about space combar, i would have liked more simulation driven aspect of combat, PvE on this game for me is mostly just target practise and getting materials and bounty, just like in other games. But in PvP its working and atleast when theres hundreds of ships clashing in same system. Guess who replaces all those wasted ammo, equipment and ships? Crafters. Like i said one of few MMO games where crafting plays true part and not just some addiotional option.

Game is not for everybody though, players who want to hit mobs every 3 seconds, want almost instant travel to everyone and love esport PvP action should stay well clear of this game. I know quite many players who tried Eve but not subscribed to it longer, but quite many of them still praised EVEs system. And in what other game you can have 100k players on same persistant world? None so far. Themepark style of MMO games are your type, this aint.
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Like Ronin said, Eve is definitely not for everyone. Eve is a harsh game, if you do stuff it has consequences, always. Sometimes it can be good, sometimes it can leave you waking up in a medical clone and wondering what happened.

Also the most powerfull aspect of the game isn't the game itself, it's the community playing it. The game itself is simply a playing field, unlike in other MMO's where the content is there to provide entertainment and goals. In Eve, YOU set your goals, along with your corporation, and your alliance, and possibly your coalition.
Diplomacy in Eve is a very big part of the game, where some players in the right position can affect the lives of thousands of others by simply saying.. we're going to do this.
That is the power of Eve.

A good example of this is the recent 'attack' on the biggest tradehub of the game. A solar system in high security space, called Jita. Normally thousands of people come here every day, in freighters, industrials, jump freighters, whatnot. They come to deliver or buy goods, materials, ammo, ships, anything. There are hundreds of players in the game who don't even ever undock from Jita, living only in the main hub, trading goods people come to sell, buying them and selling them again on the local market, manipulating the prices on a grand scale. Trillions of isk trade hands here every day.
Think of the large commodities trade centers in the real world. Now imagine they're not just selling grain, or oil, but also nuclear warheads, battleships, submarines, etc. and there is absolutely no government controlling this arena of capitalism. Trade embargo's, cartels, thehy all exist in eve, and they do their shadowy thing behind the scenes.

Now.. back to that event.. this capital of trade was assaulted for an entire weekend by a group called 'The ClusterFuck Coalition' aka the CFC. This was a group of several large alliances that normally live out in the most lawless part of Eve, sovereignity null sec. Where they claim their own systems, and they are litterally 'the law'.

This of group of players, which is about 10000 people in all, a large number of them went to Jita, and started killing every industrial that came or went. Now, as this is high security space, when someone fires on another player, CONCORD will arrive and WTFpwn the offender, destroying their ship. Before they do however, it's possible to kill another player's ship. Especially if you have say 20 ships with big guns in them, and you all fire on that single defenseless freighter. Turning everybody into lovely explosions. ( this is known as 'suicide ganking' )

They were destroying freighters and industrials by the hundreds here, litterally. Now for size and amounts.. a freighter would be like a RL oil tanker, filled to the brim with 'stuff'. Now these were being blown up left and right, simply to attack the economy of eve. Why? Because they CAN. ( and some political reasons too. but mainly that one )

Ofcourse doing so, they will lose their own ships, so in order to destroy all these industrials and other ships, They need combat ships, in the thousands. Which all were destroyed by Concord.

Now.. imagine the capital needed to invest into such an endeavor, the logistics involved in getting these ships there, and preparing them for this campaign, and the drive that is needed to send several thousand players into one direction to go there and combine their efforts in this campaign.

THAT is Eve.. That is how big it is. And what kind of playing field the game is. In Eve, you could be part of doing somethign like this, or you could be part of some smalltime mining industry corp, selling their minerals for profit, these minerals could then be used by an industrialist, building ships, that were used in this campaign.

( On a side note, I tried getting a 'piece of the action' myself in this event. As soon as it was announced a month ago, I contacted people in the CFC to see if I could be one of their suppliers for their ships they would undoubtedly need. Sadly, several large industrial cartels had already beaten me to it. And I could simply not compete with them, because I did not have the capability to manufacture on that scale )

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Now.. back to that event.. this capital of trade was assaulted for an entire weekend by a group called 'The ClusterFuck Coalition' aka the CFC. This was a group of several large alliances that normally live out in the most lawless part of Eve, sovereignity null sec. Where they claim their own systems, and they are litterally 'the law'.
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But on a more serious note, yeah. Eve's not for everyone, but if you find it boring, I dare you to jump into a frigate and head into lowsec in an attempt to die. Also, GTFO of the NPC corporations as Eve, more than other games, is about the social interaction at the core of it.

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Also, GTFO of the NPC corporations as Eve, more than other games, is about the social interaction at the core of it.
THIS! I wholeheartedly concur.. like I said in my previous post.. the game itself is simply a playground, a sandbox. It's not the isall endall.. that is the players and the community. More than any other MMO, Eve is about the players playing it and the actions they takein the game and how they affect others.

PS: plz plz plz.. any chance I can get some cheap technetium from you guys?

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Sure thing! Just bring a freighter to Fountain and we'll fill it to the brim! ;D

But seriously, speaking of cheap tech, you might want to buy it up wherever possible. Think it's bad now? Not for anything we're planning, but you know hub traders. They'll gouge prices until either we lose the tech regions (Hah!) or the tech nerf hits (which still won't hurt us. It's common knowledge that TEST and Goons have a massive surplus of money.

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