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MW2 > BC2.

Actually able to play. Realism? Who gives a shit. you want realism, you'll fuck off shitty arcade games and play Arma2 or Battlefield 2. And Realism? Really? infantrymen who suddenly know how to drive tanks, fly attack helo's, and fire them at the same time, despite having crews of 2-4? Come off it.

HAWKX does Flight Combat better, despite the relatively poor graphics and lack of realism in respect to damage. Arma2 does Tank battles better. MW2 and Medal of Honor both do better for BC2.

If you're too shit that unloading a full assault rifle or SMG magazine won't kill someone, frankly you shouldn't be allowed near a shooter.

Bad Company was one thing only - a sandbox produced with a mediocre story-line and no depth to characters (even worse than MW2 - I had no empathy with Fags and whatever their names were, whereas I was pissed off to fuck when Shepherd killed Ghost and Roach).

I agree with 5tons points -

Aiming points don't do relative damage - putting a round in your arm is going to put you in shock as much as a trauma to the chest. One in the leg is going to drop you. if you're going to factor in "true effects" such as this, then go the full way.

Movement - there's rattle and roll with the weapon, but you're still a perfect marksman when you're standing/crouching

Prone - so, the basic position from which everyone learns during basic training is the most accurate shooting position is ignored? Again, they want their cake an eat it, and unfortunately, it doesn't work.

Snipers - most horrendous idea to ever get put into this travesty of a game. In MW2 The 50 cal, and Intervention are the most powerful weapons in the game when used correctly, and only one of those becomes a semi efficient no-scope killer - at which there are a damn sight more effective things you can use, such as the FAL for single shot, FAMAS for burst, and SCARH/UMP for Auto.

As fo rmW2 issues - Dual wield 1887's annoyed the fuck out of me - as a point of protest, I never use Akimbo 1887's - i prefer the FMJ Striker anyway. Then again, the game never really professes to take itself too seriously unlike the first one - seriously, satellite crash, recover military hardware, and (the best bit) a Terrorist Attack that was designed to have the Russians think it was the Americans by leaving an American at the scene, and the CIA only placing the American there to discover the motives for the attack, followed by a General who instigated WW3 causing millions more deaths to avenge the lives of those lost during the nuclear attack 5 years before.

10th presitge? What is that really in the scheme of things? Fuck all. It gets you a shiny badge - I know that I only prestige to see if I can advance faster than I did before. Personally, I much prefer getting my accuracy up. On one of my most recent accounts, I went from 17% accuracy before attempting to master the M86, RPD, and AUG - it dropped to 9%. i then went onto assault rifles, and mastered the FAL, Scar, FAMAS and TAR21 - getting it up 14, then the SMG mastering dropped it 11, and sniper has got it back to 13 recently.

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Bad Company 2 > Modern Warfare 2

But I'll start by pulling the linchpin out of my argument by saying that Bad Company 2 was ruined by plagues of Recon class players. Back when I still played, you would see 80% of entire teams made up of Recon classes. Most of these people spammed mortars or kept out of any useful position for the sake of their precious kill/death ratio instead of playing to win the match while everyone else did all the work.

There were Recon players who picked up battle rifles and such, though, like the G3. They weren't afraid to get up close and make a difference instead of getting three or so kills during the entire match a mile away from the objectives.

The greatest thing about BC 2 that makes it so much better to me than MW2 is a little thing called Team Work. In order to win in BC 2, you needed to use team work. I play to win, and rummaging about the MW2 online experience with a bunch of shit-talking obtuse randoms who drone on about their K/D's become a chore. By the time I assembled a group of players to work our common goal, I'd lost all interest in this game.

5ton, I have to say though that if you can't make a kill in five shots you are just praying and spraying. It isn't CoD where you can just run/gun, dump a ton of ammo through some walls, and magically score some kills. You actually have to aim and make controlled shots because spraying won't earn you anything but a body bag. Also, why are you so ignorantly hostile towards vehicles? Battlefield games have always involved vehicles. I've never seen anyone 'abuse' them, either. 'Less you mean spawn killing which happens in just about every game made these days whether you're on foot or in an attack helicopter. Even then, they are not invincible.

My viewpoint is on the basis of how much team work comes in to play. Which I enjoy the most out of my games where applicable. But I do agree that the single player mode was worse than MW2's in regards to plot/characters. Not that I cared for MW2's story, either, but even though BC2 is a multi-player focused game you'd think they would have put more of a compelling story together.

MW2 is fun if you dig the faced paced nature of the FFA/arena style of play. I play it here/there when I want to just vent some steam by charging around with a shotgun or LMG. It's just not a game to take too seriously due to the shaky spawn system and incoherent level of 'team-play'.

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i actually dont use auto matic weapons on cod. I use Shotguns sniper rifles and Pistols. Dont get me wrong i like auto guns but i found semi auto takes more skill. The main reason i dont like BF is because it just has a funky firing system. I dont know how to explain other then its jumpy really wierd. Its like playing LEFT 4 DEAD. But yea dont get me wrong game affects and senery is amazing. just not crazy about game play.

Oh and i only use the Spas shotgun. none of that Models or ranger bullshit

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One thing pisses me off no end. Killstreaks - especially Helicopters and the Spooky. On occasion, I feel as if I'm the only one who ever takes Stingers or AT4's.

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Mw2 is fun but lacks almost any reason to work togther, One player can easliy carry the team. The weapons arent that realistic, sinping takes minimal skill, and half the perks are bullshit.
BC2 encourges teamwork, sinping takes a hell of a lot of time and patince, and the perks arnt game breaking. Havin said that it is also a much slower paced game, with accuray replacing twitch and distance being a HUGE factor in weapon effectiveness. The recon class dominates hard core, and almost every other class is at a loss. MW2 hardcore is a little more balenced in terms of weapons but still favors certain perk/weapon combos.

In the end i like both games but for totally differnt reasons, BF2 gets old when you have to jogg around the map for 5 mintues to find a kill, and Mw2 is full of shit at times (fuck you kill streaks). I hope Black ops will be the reboot that COD needs in my opainin and BC2 needs some more maps and game mods...and more weapons serouilsy i got them all in like a month of play.

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Fear not Vaz, you are not alone. I am almost always the only one on my team with a stinger or some way to take down the choppers/harriers. All of my classes carry one with the exception of the sniper as you have to have a close range weapon to go with the rifle.

one thing I want is the ability to split my fire everywhere, it makes no sense that a squad of 10 guard or marines or whatever all have to fire at 1 target with everything, is the guy with the lascannon not smart enough to realize maybe he would be better off firing at the massive tank looming overhead instead of the little man no bigger than a squat running at him, or is that far too complex for the 10yr olds?

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I haven't played the Battlefield series of games in a long, long time because I hate it with the passion of a thousands burning suns. There are a few things about the CoD franchise that I love, being;

1) Aiming Down the Sight. When I pull the sights on CoD, I feel like I'm really looking down the sights of a weapon.

2) Weapons. I fucking love weapons, and no game does weapons better than CoD. They just feel right.

3) Reloading. 90% of the reason I hate Battlefield so much is when I reload a weapon, the guy takes the clip out of the weapon, inserts a fresh one, and racks the chamber. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER. At that moment I walked out of Best Buy and never played a Battlefield game again. In CoD, if there is a round in the chamber, the guy does not rack the the chamber. Advantage: CoD.

I understand I might be a little biased, but Battlefield always felt like a nusery school to CoD's high school.

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I haven't played the Battlefield series of games in a long, long time because I hate it with the passion of a thousands burning suns. There are a few things about the CoD franchise that I love, being;

1) Aiming Down the Sight. When I pull the sights on CoD, I feel like I'm really looking down the sights of a weapon.

2) Weapons. I fucking love weapons, and no game does weapons better than CoD. They just feel right.

3) Reloading. 90% of the reason I hate Battlefield so much is when I reload a weapon, the guy takes the clip out of the weapon, inserts a fresh one, and racks the chamber. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER. At that moment I walked out of Best Buy and never played a Battlefield game again. In CoD, if there is a round in the chamber, the guy does not rack the the chamber. Advantage: CoD.

I understand I might be a little biased, but Battlefield always felt like a nusery school to CoD's high school.
1. Bad company 2, you have the aiming down the sights, wait what?

2. the weapons are more realistic in BC2 then in MW2, BC2 incorperates WEIGHT to the bullets, MW2 doesnt

3. you have never played BC2, and your judgeing a game based on an animation
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And also the in game reload speed. You never fire off a full clip either in Real Life, or in CoD, due to the length of time it takes to recock a weapon.

When you're in training, you'll load 30 rounds into a magazine, fire 30 rounds, and be done. You do a tour of duty, and you'll 29 rounds in a magazine, fire 28 rounds, remove magazine, take out fresh magazine, fire 29 rounds, remove magazine, fire 29 rounds etc.

This saves the spring, and also allows you to carry on firing without the need to recock, especially on annoying PoS handles like the SA80A2 if you're left handed.

So, in answer to your 3, I raise you, "you're judging a game you don't even know how it works".

And also to the PC BC2 > PS3/360 BC2 argument, surely the fact that PC MW2 = PS3/360 MW2 shows its much better that you don't need to spend a few hundred extra quid to play a game that's deficient on other variants?

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