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post #21 of 30 (permalink) Old 08-31-09, 08:26 PM
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You rarely ever see a WW2 movie that even mentions Jews, let alone features them prominantly
Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, hell, To Be Or Not To Be (both versions)

And that's with less than ten seconds of thought put into it.

Sophie's Choice. Objective Burma. (and THAT one was set in the PTO) La vita è bella. Enigma. Enemy At The Gates. Defiance.


Having almost comically brutal Yanks is nothing new, either.

I point, of course, to that lovely old standby, The Dirty Dozen

The difference being, in THAT particular shoot 'em up, the utter lunacy of the worst of them is actually condemned.

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
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I hated it for two reasons:

Many people will believe this sort of bullshit to be true.

The America Fuckyeahism was way too high for me to stand.
Oh come on nobody is so dumb as to believe this movie as fact.
Yea the America Fuck yeah was high but I enjoyed it and thought maybe it was so high just to poke fun at itself.

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Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, hell, To Be Or Not To Be (both versions)

And that's with less than ten seconds of thought put into it.

Sophie's Choice. Objective Burma. (and THAT one was set in the PTO) La vita bella. Enigma. Enemy At The Gates. Defiance.
Fair point. I suppose I was thinking more along the lines of the John Wayne era WW2 movies. Still, you don't often see them doing the vast majoity of the ass-kicking. Usually they're there to inspire other people into fighting, or they fight back in their own fashion. I'm not saying there aren't any movies where the Jews do their own fighting and take center stage, just that compared to the vast bulk of WW2 movies, they're not common.

The point I'm trying to make though is that compared to other WW2 movies (which are almost all pro-america as a matter of course), this one seemed way more "Jews: Fuck yeah!" than anything. The Americans were barbaric, superfluous and actually made some of the german soldiers look downrihgt heroic for standing up to them.

It may seem like an "America: Fuck Yeah" movie on the surface, but it doesn't hold up if you look at it any deeper than the flashy surface. Which I think is fine because it gives it broader appeal and a little more depth.

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Or it would, were it not typical Tarantino.

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
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Not to sound contrary, but I thought it stood oout a bit from his other works.

Sure, it was funny, and sure there was some hilariously graphic violence, and some funny, well-clipped dialogue, but there was really a lot less blood and violence and humor than I expected. He actually put some effort into developing a plot and setting things up. It;s not like Kill Bill or Pulp Fiction where it just careers wildly from one insanely fucked up scene to the next.

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I didn't get that "America: Fuck Yeah!" vibe at all from this movie. The American characters were almost repulsive in their brutality (not to say I wasn't rooting for them); the only two characters in the film with any redeeming qualities were Shoshana and Zoller, and even they threw that shit right out the window.

Honestly, I kinda got that "Jews: Fuck Yeah!" vibe throughout the movie, too.

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Pure shit. I've never been so bored in my life. I was actually close to turning it off.
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Not a fan of subtitles, mate?

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Not a fan of watching some Nazi film star talk to a woman in a pub for 30 mins. Then a bunch of twats sticking cards to their heads for another 30 mins. It was like watching some shitty 1950's art house soap opera. Bride Wars held my attention for longer... The dialogue wasn't even witty or interesting. It was pointless and irrelevant.

Incidentally, subtitles don't bother me, Dead Snow for example was one of the most awesome films I've seen in a long time.
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i enjoyed it but i felt there was something missing. it seemed a little flat IMO

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