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hi, i have thought about doing a thread about film misconceptions for a while now and as i have something installing that is taking forever i thought why not make it now?

one thing that really annoys me is the misconception of roman gladiators. you may think they were just slaves thrown into a ring to kill each other, and many films , dramas etc express that but it is far from the truth. think of them as football or american football stars, they costed a huge amount of money to train, feed , coth etc and why would the trainer just have them die?

they were picked to fight and entertain crowds and generally gain fame for them and there trainer and make alot of money, of course they could ' fight for freedom ' but this was more of a case of ' your past your good days and wont make much more money ' . gladiators only died at public events like posh parties, think of them as entertainers like clowns, strippers etc or at the climax`s of tournaments , and often their trainner got a lump sum of money in compensation for this.

we think of them the way we do because of there re - invention in the middle ages , where scholars took real life events and fantasised them, like newspapers today. really gladiators had the best medical care in the empire / republic and the weapons they used were generally used to cause. lots of blood etc to look entertaining but very little damage internally. like the legendary trident, it had a large surface area so it couldn`t do much lasting damage but sure blood would be squirting out of the person who got stabbed with it
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The one misconception I hate is the one that a bullet wont go through a car door or a wooden crate. Don't bother gents. You're still gonna bleed a lot

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aye, and my friend who shoots alot says bullets dissintigrate as they hit water, something to do with the change of speed and the impact of hitting the water
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The phrase 'break a leg' was originally coined by Chuck Norris's co-stars in Walker, Texas Ranger as a good luck charm, indicating that a broken leg might be the worst extent of their injuries. This never proved to be the case.

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Here's one....the Mongols as an unwashed, demonic horde that wanted nothing better than to rape, pillage, and murder their way through 'civilized' areas.

In truth, they were quite enlightened. Ghengis Khan founded the Mongol Empire as a remarkably open institution. There was religious freedom, the free transfer of ideas was encouraged, specialists from across the Empire were transferred to share their knowledge with other areas...things were generally pretty damn nice for the conquered people. In fact, it was the Mongols who first developed and enforced the modern concept of 'diplomatic immunity'-they considered it nigh on blasphemous to kill an ambassador.

Our modern concept of the Mongols is the result partially of the Europeans' view of them (which was shaped by the fact that most never actually saw a Mongol), and partially by a rather clever little trick they played...the Mongols themselves worked to put forth a brutal image in order to make fighting less necessary. If people believed you would kill them, they wouldn't resist. So things got easier as the word got out.

Sorry, rant over...my World History teacher took this subject very seriously, so I kinda tend to as well...Mongols rule!




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Another mis-conception, longbows. The main one being that comparative weaklings like Orlando Bloom/Kevin Costner could fire a longbow with enough power to strike though armour.

They would be lucky to pull it halfway along their arms. From seeing someone whom has been practicing with the longbow since his early teens, you end up with huge chest muscles.

Also the whole amount of time it takes to fire a longbow, compared to a crossbow. I saw the same person fire 16 arrows from a longbow in a minute and six from a crossbow in the same time.
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Indeed...after so much Hollywood bullshit, it surprised the hell out of me to discover that longbowmen made up 70-90% of British forces during the weapons heyday, and that the men themselves averaged around 6' tall. Turns out they were usually the tallest and had the greatest upper body strength of medieval forces...and their backup weapons weren't the puny little short swords we see, but great big honkin' sledgehammers and stuff!!!


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Oh and most of them were Welsh. Another irony, same with the Irish being the main part of the British army during the Penninsula war.
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i once saw someone screw a silencer onto a revolver and it worked.
firstly, a revolver is an open chambered weapon; the gas would still escape out the sides of the revolving chamber and thus the weapon would still make lots of noise.
also, movies make it seem as if shooting someone in the head is easy.
shooting something that that isnt standing perfectly still at anything other than point blank range is very, very difficult. and if it is moving, well, shit.
these are just movies, though, and its all about the Rule of Cool. if real life was actually that fun, they wouldnt make movies.

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The longbow was developed in Wales. The majority of longbowmen in English armies probably weren't Welsh after about 1330 (about 40 years after Edward I conquered Wales). Edward realised the utility of the longbow, especially for killing Scotsmen, and was responsible for introducing it to England.

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The phrase 'break a leg' was originally coined by Chuck Norris's co-stars in Walker, Texas Ranger as a good luck charm, indicating that a broken leg might be the worst extent of their injuries. This never proved to be the case.
If that's true I'll eat someone else's hat, with Marmite on it. I can't prove it's not true, but those "Walker Texas Ranger" programmes weren't made until the 1980s (or was it '90s?) and I'd heard that expression long before. No, I don't have a citation, you'll just have to believe me.

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