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Personally I despise Obliterators.

The Fist of the Gods nets those vehicles a 6++ bubble around the warpsmith and essentially has him repairing them on a 4+ so I don't consider him a tax in this regard. While the Predators may be of limited use I prefer them to another Vindicator for the simple reason that they are more expendable without being totally useless. I can use them to pick of monsters and tanks, knock a hull point or two off fortifications or simply as a screen for the vindicator or squads. I'm still toying with the idea of dropping the lascannons and leaving them even cheaper with their standard autocannons. The extra points I'd probably use as bodies for the havocs.


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Ah well, if you don't like them, then go havocs all day long! I think oblits have obnoxious models and the sculptor should be fired (if you, the sculptor, ever happen to read this, i'm sorry. they are truly bad)
About the Fist: the 6++ is literally a false hope. it is worth it maybe, maybe, even then not so shure, with 6 vehicles minimum in the formation to maximise chances of getting one of those "6". the smith is going to stay alone, hidden behind them? if so, easy kill, otherwise you are using a squad to babysit him and the tanks and this is another hidden cost. about the preds, i've used them in this way and...well...they are fun. That's all i can say... (a twin linked lascannon at 100 pts or an autocannon at 75? as you wish...)
So, in the end i think you are vastly overestimating the performance of the fist.
this said, my considerations are just from a numerical approach, but if you like it, you should use it!! (i use defilers and mutilators sometimes, so...)
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ONE MORE TRY.

Combined Arms:

HQ:

Chaos Lord: Power Axe, Bolt Pistol, Sigil of Corruption, Melta Bombs... 110

TROOPS:

Chaos Space Marines (10): x2 Plasma Guns... 170

Chaos Space Marines (10): x2 Flamers, Champion, Power Sword... 165

x2 Rhinos: ... 70

HEAVY:

Havocs (8): 4 Lascannons... 194

Predator: ... 75

... 784

Combined Arms:

HQ:

Sorcerer: Force Sword, Bolt Pistol, Mastery Level 2, Sigil of Corruption... 110

TROOPS:

Chaos Space Marines (10): x2 Plasma Guns... 170

Chaos Space Marines (10): x2 Flamers, Champion, Power Sword... 165

x2 Rhinos: ... 70

HEAVY:

Vindicator: ... 120

Predator: ... 75

...710


... 1,494

All combined arms this time, two detachments.
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